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  • C.Syde65
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    04:21, August 10, 2018

    Hello, I have a theory on why Nitrus Brio was chosen by Uka Uka to be on team evil in Crash Bash. I think that Uka Uka chose N Brio to be on team evil because in Crash 2: Cortex Strikes Back, N Brio technically freed Uka Uka from his temple prison by destroying the Cortex Vortex with his laser installation. When this happened(as you probably know) a piece of the Cortex Vortex fell down to Earth and destroyed Uka Uka's prison, setting him free. Because N Brio was the one who technically gave him freedom, he was grateful that he did so, and chose him to be a member of his team in Crash Bash for this. Please tell me why you think that N Brio was on team evil in Crash Bash.

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    • Brio is a lot more competent than Cortex. Just because Brio opposed Cortex in Crash 2 doesn't mean he isn't still also a villain himself, and Crash Bash confirms that he was always a villain. If I was Uka Uka in that position, I would've picked just about anyone else possible in Cortex's place after all of his failures and how pessimistic he was in Crash 3, and would have certainly still picked Brio.

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    • MasterWarlord wrote: Brio is a lot more competent than Cortex. Just because Brio opposed Cortex in Crash 2 doesn't mean he isn't still also a villain himself, and Crash Bash confirms that he was always a villain. If I was Uka Uka in that position, I would've picked just about anyone else possible in Cortex's place after all of his failures and how pessimistic he was in Crash 3, and would have certainly still picked Brio.

      I agree with you that Brio is much more competent then Cortex is, but Brio is just not as evil as Cortex. In Crash 2 Brio was literally stopping Cortex's evil by wanting to destroy the Cortex Vortex and save the world. I guess this means that Brio could still be evil, but he is not nearly as evil as Cortex because with the help of Crash he saved the world. So it could be possible that Brio is still evil, but not evil enough to have world domination, or effect the entire Earth for his gain. Also there is no evidence after Crash 1 that Brio is evil, and if my theory is correct he was chosen to be on Uka Uak's team because he freed the evil spirit.

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    • EH28 wrote: Hello, I have a theory on why Nitrus Brio was chosen by Uka Uka to be on team evil in Crash Bash. I think that Uka Uka chose N Brio to be on team evil because in Crash 2: Cortex Strikes Back, N Brio technically freed Uka Uka from his temple prison by destroying the Cortex Vortex with his laser installation. When this happened(as you probably know) a piece of the Cortex Vortex fell down to Earth and destroyed Uka Uka's prison, setting him free. Because N Brio was the one who technically gave him freedom, he was grateful that he did so, and chose him to be a member of his team in Crash Bash for this. Please tell me why you think that N Brio was on team evil in Crash Bash.

      I agree with this. I also think it might be the competence thing too. This may sound weird, but Brio is a team builder. In Crash 1 Cortex had lots of forces when Brio was on his team, but in Crash 2 Cortex was left with no ground operatives and his plans were crushed by Brio and Crash. He also got the other N Doctors to join his side in Twinsanity over Cortex. Also this fits with competence Cortex and Brio were able to get the upper hand of even Uka Uka in Crash MOM. Uka Uka found him as an asset to the team. Also N. Gin feebleness and N Trophy's failure in Warped also led to him being picked over them.

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    • Doctor Nitrus Brio doesn't necessarily have to be allied with Doctor Neo Cortex to play for the side of evil. He just has to be an ally to Uka Uka. Doctor Nefarious Tropy stopped being allied with Cortex after Warped, but still remains on Uka Uka's side. In Crash Nitro Kart, N. Tropy races for Cortex's team, though it was most likely because Uka Uka summoned him to, or to fill in the fourth team member spot. Also since N. Tropy doesn't appear in story mode, I guess it didn't really matter whether he raced for Cortex's team or not.

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    • C.Syde65 wrote: Doctor Nitrus Brio doesn't necessarily have to be allied with Doctor Neo Cortex to play for the side of evil. He just has to be an ally to Uka Uka. Doctor Nefarious Tropy stopped being allied with Cortex after Warped, but still remains on Uka Uka's side. In Crash Nitro Kart, N. Tropy races for Cortex's team, though it was most likely because Uka Uka summoned him to, or to fill in the fourth team member spot. Also since N. Tropy doesn't appear in story mode, I guess it didn't really matter whether he raced for Cortex's team or not.

      I see what you mean, and I agree with you that N Brio doesn't have to be allied with Cortex to be on Uka Uka's team, but N Brio never met Uka Uka. And if he did meet him it would have to be offscreen because Brio only worked for the evil spirit in Crash Bash. Also, sure Brio is competent, but he is just not evil enough to be on team evil. In fact(as I said earlier) Brio was helping Crash save the world(quite the opposite of what Uka Uka generally plans). So the Brio was probably chosen because he knew Uka Uka(this is quite unlikely because he ruined his plans in Crash 2) or, as I said earlier, Uka Uka was happy that Beio freed him, and saw him as a competent contender in the arena partly because of this.

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    • From what I've seen, all the characters that worked for or alongside Cortex are considered to be allied with Uka Uka, so Brio and all his allies are considered to be allied with Uka Uka as well. Also I think Brio was merely trying to use Crash to gather the gems for him so that he could foil Cortex's plans to conquer the world. But I think that in doing so, Brio wanted to carry out his own plans of conquering the world.

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    • C.Syde65 wrote: From what I've seen, all the characters that worked for or alongside Cortex are considered to be allied with Uka Uka, so Brio and all his allies are considered to be allied with Uka Uka as well. Also I think Brio was merely trying to use Crash to gather the gems for him so that he could foil Cortex's plans to conquer the world. But I think that in doing so, Brio wanted to carry out his own plans of conquering the world.

      I agree with you I guess, and it is possible that Brio did meet Uka Uka off screen, but I don't think that N Brio was still after world domination. He had no minions, or plans to do so in any of the games after Crash 1.

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    • Well except for Crash MoM, where he allied himself back with Cortex, but that was on,y in that game.

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    • Well he did recruit Ripper Roo, and create the Komodo Brothers and Tiny Tiger to stop Crash Bandicoot from gathering the crystals, although for unknown reasons, Tiny became the henchman of Cortex in Warped onwards. And after Cortex Strikes Back it became unclear whether Ripper Roo and the Komodo Brothers were still allied with anyone other than Uka Uka.

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    • In Crash Bash I believe the Komodo Brothers were un-allied because they are boss against whoever you picked. Also N Brio was doing that so Cortex wouldn't take over the world. Also I think that Tiny's boss battle in Crash 2 was on the Cortex Vortex because he was imprisoned by Cortex, and became Cortex's minion because Brio didn't come back for him, and Cortex offered him a job. Also I think the Ripper Roo was also un-allied.

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    • I definitely remember reading some official information somewhere that Brio had recruited Ripper Roo to stop Crash from gathering the crystals, before he sent the Komodo Brothers and Tiny Tiger to stop him from gathering them.

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    • Yes, that is correct.

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    • That might've even been in the manual.

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    • It's odd that Ripper Roo was happy to work for Brio even though Cortex created him, but this might be a result of bad treatment from Cortex.

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    • Anyways, I just don't think that Brio was evil enough to be on Uka Uka's team in Crash Bas, without Uka Uka looking at the fact that Brio was the one who freed him from his temple prison by destroying the Cortex Vortex. Also I think Uka Uka might have been impressed that Brio was so easily able to foil Cortex's plans, and Uka Uka thought that Brio was an asset to his team partly because of this. This is probably not the full story, for Brio would not be picked by Uka Uka if he hadn't freed him, because Brio is just not that evil.

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    • Isn't that just a theory? I don't remember it saying anywhere that Doctor Nitrus Brio may have been the one that freed Uka Uka, whilst Cortex still taking the credit.

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    • Brio destroyed the Cortex Vortex, and a piece of the space station fell down to Earth and hit Uka Uka's prison. Therefore Brio unknowingly freed Uka Uka, and Uka Uka was probably thankful to Brio for freeing him.

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    • Therefore he was put on team evil because of this(or so I think).

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    • Seems plausible to an extent.

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    • Yeah, I guess it is also possible that Brio became a close ally with Uka Uka offscreen, but in my opinion that is unlikely.

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    • It's a common cliche where Villain A helps the heroes to stop Villain B from taking over the world. This isn't because Villain A actually cares about what happens to anyone else, this is because they want to be the ones to rule over it and not anyone else.

      There's no proof of Brio being a good person interested in anything other than himself. It would be open to interpretation if entirely basing it off of Crash 1 and 2 only, but even then his previous actions would suggest he would probably go back to business as usual after killing Cortex. Bash and the later games just confirm that Brio was evil - it's not a requirement for Brio to work with Cortex or appear in games to be evil. He could be off doing other things without disturbing Crash Bandicoot.

      Thanks to the recently translated Japanese Crash Bash ending, we also now know that Brio is Rilla Roo's creator, so he spent some time creating him. We know practically nothing about Rilla Roo other than that he is apparently evil, so there's more proof that Brio is evil by proxy.

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    • Well there is just no proof that Brio was evil after one, until MOM, and his behavior didn't hint it either. So this is why I think that Uka Uka put him on his team, because Brio freed him in Crash 2. I guess it is possible that Brio was developing his own evil plot during the games after two without anyone noticing. Brio would easily be able to do this, because in Crash 2 his base of operations was the ruins of Cortex Castle, where Crash and Cortex never went in any other games again.

      Also no problem for the translations. It doesn't however mean that Rilla Roo was created after Crash 2. He could've been an almost finished mutant of Brio during the events of Crash 2, or Brio's secret weapon in the same game that he never used. If Rilla Roo was created after Crash 2 however, it means that Brio actually is still evil, and Uka Uka brought Rilla Roo along because he was part of Brio's plan for world domination. I think otherwise though.

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    • I personally think that Brio wasn't evil after Crash 2, until MOM, because there is no bombshell evidence that says otherwise.

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    • Considering that Brio wanted to destroy Cortex and his Space Station in Crash 2, and considering he played for the side of evil in Crash Bash, and worked with N. Tropy in Twinsanity, I would still consider him a bad character because it's clear that he had bad intentions. In any case, he still had the mindset of a bad character.

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    • C.Syde65 wrote: Considering that Brio wanted to destroy Cortex and his Space Station in Crash 2, and considering he played for the side of evil in Crash Bash, and worked with N. Tropy in Twinsanity, I would still consider him a bad character because it's clear that he had bad intentions. In any case, he still had the mindset of a bad character.

      In Crash 2, Brio wanted to destroy Cortex, and the Cortex Vortex, because he did not want Cortex to hypnotize the people of the world. In Crash Bash I think Brio was on the side of evil because Uka Uka was fond of Brio, since the doctor freed him in the alternate ending of Crash 2. Lastly, in Twinsanity, Brio was not exactly evil when he was working with N Tropy, he was selfish, and wanted the treasure. I never said that Brio was a good person, I'm saying that he isn't exactly evil.

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    • His alignment is ambiguous in a lot of games, yes.

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    • Yeah, he is not in many games, but when he does appear he is allied with someone different.

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    • His alignment varies between bad and neutral, depending on the game he's in, and his role in the game, but he certainly isn't good.

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    • C.Syde65 wrote: His alignment varies between bad and neutral, depending on the game he's in, and his role in the game, but he certainly isn't good.

      I never said he was a good person, I'm saying he's not evil in any Crash game from 1 onwards, until MOM. In Bash I think he was chosen by Uka Uka to be on team evil because he freed the mask at the end of Crash 2. Also in Twinsanity he wasn't working with Tropy because he was evil, he was working with him because he was selfish, and wanted the treasure. I never said he was a good person, and there's in game evidence to support that he's not, in fact he is quite bad. He's willing to kill his enemies at first chance, and he his selfish. He is not evil however, for he does not attempt to take over the world, or anything that would classify him as evil.

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    • Trying to kill people in order to attain treasure isn't evil?

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    • MasterWarlord wrote: Trying to kill people in order to attain treasure isn't evil?

      He was greedy, so much so that he blurred the lines, and tried to wipe out Crash and Cortex for stopping him. As I said he is quite a bad person, but he never tries to take over the world, or affect the population as a whole, meaning he is exactly evil.

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    • EH28 wrote:

      MasterWarlord wrote: Trying to kill people in order to attain treasure isn't evil?

      He was greedy, so much so that he blurred the lines, and tried to wipe out Crash and Cortex for stopping him. As I said he is quite a bad person, but he never tries to take over the world, or affect the population as a whole, meaning he is exactly evil.

      You know, I guess Brio is kinda evil, but he is a lot less evil then Cortex, or most of the people Uka Uka chose for his team. Brio is just not a a big enough threat, and he was never working for Uka Uka before. So that's why I think he was chosen by Uka Uka because he freed the mask in Crash 2.

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    • But it's odd that Brio and Uka Uka never seen each other before, and yet Uka Uka chose Brio for his team. Because of this I think that Uka Uka chose Brio because Nitrus freed Uka Uka at the end of Crash 2.

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    • EH28 wrote: But it's odd that Brio and Uka Uka never seen each other before, and yet Uka Uka chose Brio for his team. Because of this I think that Uka Uka chose Brio because Nitrus freed Uka Uka at the end of Crash 2.

      We can't really know that for sure though.

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    • C.Syde65 wrote:

      EH28 wrote: But it's odd that Brio and Uka Uka never seen each other before, and yet Uka Uka chose Brio for his team. Because of this I think that Uka Uka chose Brio because Nitrus freed Uka Uka at the end of Crash 2.

      We can't really know that for sure though.

      I guess your right, but as of now I think my theory that he was chosen because he freed Uka Uka is the most likely.

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    • I don't think Brio was ever genuinely concerned with the fate of the world - he had no qualms with Cortex's plans in Game One, and the end goal was about the same then as it was in CSB. I think he just really despised Cortex personally and wanted revenge; saving the world was a byproduct.

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    • Salmon Stan, please don't bump threads that have been inactive for over a month. I will be closing this thread now. If anyone wants to continue this topic, they will need to do so by starting a new thread.

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