Talk:Ripper Roo

Crazy laugh
Ripper Roo has got a crazy laugh, which is very similar to The Hyena from Lady and The Tramp. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RebeccaTheSorceress (talk) 19:03, July 3, 2014 (UTC) - Please sign your comments with ~

Mention in MOM's coding
Does anyone have more info on the metion of him in MOM's coding? If so and it can be put in the trivia section with the point mentioning it, please do so. PartHunter (talk) 02:42, April 2, 2015 (UTC)

Source?
"He is considered to be Dr. Cortex's first and failed experiment with the Evolvo Ray"

This wasn't said anywhere, at least that I've seen. The manuals of Crash 1 and 2 don't mention this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by IWander (talk) 00:37, October 28, 2017 (UTC) - Please sign your comments with ~


 * I think what they meant is that he is Doctor Neo Cortex's first experiment to be introduced as a boss in a Crash Bandicoot game.


 * Also could you please sign your post with four tildes ~ thanks! :) ― C.Syde  ( talk  |  contribs ) 11:33, October 26, 2017 (UTC)

Whoops, sorry!! IWander (talk) 21:48, October 26, 2017 (UTC)

Contention on “Anthropomorphic” to describe Ripper Roo
I wanted to preface why I disagree with this description for Ripper Roo as a character. First of all, he does not possess a humanoid physique or even the ability to speak coherently like a human. People will mention how he wears a straitjacket and drives, but at the same time Pura and Polar wear clothes in their CTRNF skins and also are capable of driving. Furthermore, Ripper Roo was put into the straitjacket by Cortex and Brio rather than on his own volition and acts rather animalistic otherwise. He is also considered a failed experiment unlike Tiny, Pinstripe or Kong who also possess more humanoid builds.

Lastly, the issue I have with people describing him as anthropomorphic is that some random porn-addicted furry will use that as an excuse to draw nasty fanart of him, be it pornographic or fetish in nature. This has already significantly damaged the reputation of the Sonic fandom for ages.

sorry for the trouble as well, but I wanted to put in my two cents.


 * Thanks for writing. It's no trouble, just please remember to sign any posts you make on the Talk page with "~" so that it has your wiki signature on it. (Also, like how I've replied to you with an indent ":", subsequent replies should begin with "::" , ":::" etc.)


 * >"humanoid physique"
 * An animal does not need to be humanoid in body type to be anthropomorphic. The (non-sociological/psychological) dictionary definition is "having human characteristics". Those characteristics can be purely behavioral.


 * >Polar and Pura
 * In that case, Pura and Polar are anthropomorphic too, just to a lesser extent than the Cortex Commando characters. Anthropomorphism is a spectrum rather than a binary quality. As an example, the Wikipedia page for notes that while he is mostly non-anthropomorphic, his distinct facial expressions are an anthropomorphic trait. We may in the future write something similar for Polar and Pura. By comparison, Ripper Roo has many anthropomorphic traits, it's just that a humanoid physique is not one of them. He is also at the very least more capable of understanding language than Polar or Pura appear to be, and more than a real-life kangaroo is.


 * >"failed experiment"
 * Ripper Roo is almost certainly considered a failed experiment because he is insane, not because he somehow failed to become evolved/is non-humanoid. That comes from The Crash Bandicoot Files, which describes his physical transformation by the Evolvo-Ray as having turned out as expected.


 * >furries
 * uhhh it's not really Bandipedia's job to make sure nobody could possibly draw porn of the characters. "Anthropomorphic" doesn't exclusively refer to furry art; that is not at all a usual reading of the word. Barney the Dinosaur is accurately described as an anthropomorphic dinosaur, but it is not an endorsement of furry porn of him. It just means the character has humanlike traits. Any would-be pervs are certainly not going to be stopped by the absence of a single adjective on his fan wiki page.


 * If there's a synonym that both captures the effects of the Evolvo-Ray on him, without making a reference to mutation, we could put one in to at least put the argument to rest. I was thinking maybe something like "evolved", but really, every single organism on Earth is "evolved"... how quickly is a different matter ;) Currently I don't see it as necessary. Salmonistan (talk) 20:14, 20 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I will also add that he does speak coherent sentences in CTR (in Japanese he straight up speaks normally and the other languages subtitle him - which is still an implication he speaks and understands human language). -- 21:57, 20 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I know he speaks coherently in the Japanese version of CTR but he has never demonstrated this ability in any western releases of the game, not even in CTRNF or its equivalent Japanese version. He does demonstrate some traits but to a much lesser degree than the other Commandos who frequently speak and emote much like people. He also does not walk or run like the other Commandos as revealed in Crash Team Rumble and much of his emotes in the game are more animalistic in nature.

Just my two cents. FawFayQ8 (talk) 03:29, 21 August 2023 (UTC) 6:28, 21st August 2023 ((KSA))


 * The difference between hopping and walking is not huge. Normal kangaroos hop bipedally and normal dingos/potoroos/bandicoots walk quadrupedally; the only real difference is that a kangaroo is already bipedal. Additionally, Crash also doesn't talk very much in the series, but we would still say that he is anthropomorphic. The degree to which these characters talk varies throughout the series (the other Commandos don't talk at all in Crash 1), so the existing term is a catch-all in that it is accurate to all appearances, whether he can speak or not.


 * Even if Ripper Roo is slightly less anthropomorphic compared to Dingodile, he is significantly more so compared to other animal enemies, such as the wild turtles. The point of the descriptor is to succinctly distinguish him from other animals in the series not experimented on by Cortex. The lede is the only part of an article many wiki visitors read, so it's important that they don't come away mistaking him for a generic animal antagonist like, say, the giant polar bear in Un-Bearable. The more subtle parts of his character, like his speech and mobility, are covered already in greater detail in the Physical characteristics and Personality sections. We would leave it to the reader to determine how anthropomorphic they feel that makes him compared to the other Cortex Commandos.


 * You are right on kangaroos hopping bipedally, my point on earlier mentioning walking or running is that the other Cortex Commandos (especially Crash) walk and run with a more humanoid gait than Ripper Roo, which is why I said they display a greater degree of anthropomorphism than Ripper (and that also includes Crash’s more humanoid build and the fact he wears shoes). In CTRNF as well he doesn’t exactly speak coherently like most of the other Commandos do, which is also why I said Ripper is less anthropomorphic IMO.

I also agree with trying to distinguish him from the generic animal enemies Crash would encounter. Thank you for the clarification in any case! FawFayQ8 (talk) 18:30, 21 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks again, Salmonistan (talk) 17:18, 21 August 2023 (UTC)